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	<title>Comments on: allyship: that post I&#039;ve been sitting on all week</title>
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		<title>By: Blaise Freeman</title>
		<link>http://alphafemme.net/2010/01/18/allyship-that-post-ive-been-sitting-on-all-week/comment-page-1/#comment-598</link>
		<dc:creator>Blaise Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 13:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your thoughtful response!

I think perhaps your criticism is ultimately about privilege - at the end of the day &quot;allies&quot; can distance themselves from the causes they&#039;re fighting for: white people can forget about race, straight people can return to their heteronormative lives, etc.
So can anyone really &lt;i&gt;BE&lt;/i&gt; an ally if it&#039;s just part-time?

Maybe then &lt;i&gt;ally&lt;/i&gt; isn&#039;t an identity, so much as an aspiration. Maybe you&#039;re right that we can never truly be allies, but we can still aspire to &lt;b&gt;act as an ally&lt;/b&gt;. Ultimately it&#039;s not a reflection of who you are, not a label or identity, but a verb, an action?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your thoughtful response!</p>
<p>I think perhaps your criticism is ultimately about privilege &#8211; at the end of the day &#8220;allies&#8221; can distance themselves from the causes they&#8217;re fighting for: white people can forget about race, straight people can return to their heteronormative lives, etc.<br />
So can anyone really <i>BE</i> an ally if it&#8217;s just part-time?</p>
<p>Maybe then <i>ally</i> isn&#8217;t an identity, so much as an aspiration. Maybe you&#8217;re right that we can never truly be allies, but we can still aspire to <b>act as an ally</b>. Ultimately it&#8217;s not a reflection of who you are, not a label or identity, but a verb, an action?</p>
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		<title>By: alphafemme</title>
		<link>http://alphafemme.net/2010/01/18/allyship-that-post-ive-been-sitting-on-all-week/comment-page-1/#comment-596</link>
		<dc:creator>alphafemme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 04:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Blaise, thanks for your comment :)

I agree wholeheartedly that it is so important for straight people to do that kind of proactive work. Just like it&#039;s necessary for me as a white person to do the same regarding the histories, literatures, activism and leadership of people of color (for example). And I totally embrace you calling that allyship.

And I&#039;ve been sitting here staring at my blinking cursor trying to pinpoint what it is that still bothers me about that term. I&#039;m not sure I can do it articulately, but I&#039;ll try.

I don&#039;t think people should need the label of the word &quot;ally&quot; to motivate them to do the things you&#039;re talking about, things like interrupting oppressive behaviors and having thoughtful dialogue with others and exploring issues of identity proactively. I do think those things should come out of a sense of human curiosity, a genuine desire to connect, and an openness to learning and changing. So when I talk about just being human, I&#039;m not talking about stepping down from what it means to be an ally. I&#039;m talking about stepping up to what it means to be human. Does that make sense?

I guess my reason for this is that it just isn&#039;t possible to ever be educated &lt;em&gt;enough&lt;/em&gt;, active &lt;em&gt;enough&lt;/em&gt;, supportive &lt;em&gt;enough&lt;/em&gt; to be a real ally, if that&#039;s what being an ally means. I can&#039;t possibly educate myself proactively about all the histories and literatures of people of color, and people with disabilities, and people of marginalized faith, and trans people, and genderqueer people, and poor people, and and and ... I mean, fuck, I can&#039;t even master my OWN marginalized identities! And the idea of allyship makes me feel panicky, like I&#039;m not doing enough, because I never CAN do enough. It&#039;s not really possible. If I miss an opportunity to call someone out on using the word &quot;retarded,&quot; am I a bad ally? Maybe. But am I a bad person? No, definitely not. I think that&#039;s your point, that being an ally requires more than being a good person, but I think the problem with that is that it doesn&#039;t allow for failure. And failure is possibly the &lt;em&gt;least&lt;/em&gt; motivating thing of all.

I do think that a problem with my thinking is that as of now, &quot;being human&quot; DOESN&#039;T mean being an ally. So a designation is needed for those with whatever kinds of privilege who do actively and proactively fight oppression. (Sorta like how &quot;queer&quot; is a necessary designation now, though many people think an ultimate goal of queer activism and liberation is that everyone is in some way queer.) So practically speaking, I agree with the utility of the term allyship. But as an overarching concept, I still think that humanity, when lived out to its fullest, is really the best that we all can do. Because being a true &quot;ally&quot; isn&#039;t about being perfect. It&#039;s about being real. Human. And I think that in striving towards being a perfect &quot;ally,&quot; many folks forget about that core humanness.

Again, thanks so much for your thoughts. I love talking about this stuff (can you tell?). I fully invite more dialogue, if you have further thoughts on the matter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Blaise, thanks for your comment :)</p>
<p>I agree wholeheartedly that it is so important for straight people to do that kind of proactive work. Just like it&#8217;s necessary for me as a white person to do the same regarding the histories, literatures, activism and leadership of people of color (for example). And I totally embrace you calling that allyship.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve been sitting here staring at my blinking cursor trying to pinpoint what it is that still bothers me about that term. I&#8217;m not sure I can do it articulately, but I&#8217;ll try.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think people should need the label of the word &#8220;ally&#8221; to motivate them to do the things you&#8217;re talking about, things like interrupting oppressive behaviors and having thoughtful dialogue with others and exploring issues of identity proactively. I do think those things should come out of a sense of human curiosity, a genuine desire to connect, and an openness to learning and changing. So when I talk about just being human, I&#8217;m not talking about stepping down from what it means to be an ally. I&#8217;m talking about stepping up to what it means to be human. Does that make sense?</p>
<p>I guess my reason for this is that it just isn&#8217;t possible to ever be educated <em>enough</em>, active <em>enough</em>, supportive <em>enough</em> to be a real ally, if that&#8217;s what being an ally means. I can&#8217;t possibly educate myself proactively about all the histories and literatures of people of color, and people with disabilities, and people of marginalized faith, and trans people, and genderqueer people, and poor people, and and and &#8230; I mean, fuck, I can&#8217;t even master my OWN marginalized identities! And the idea of allyship makes me feel panicky, like I&#8217;m not doing enough, because I never CAN do enough. It&#8217;s not really possible. If I miss an opportunity to call someone out on using the word &#8220;retarded,&#8221; am I a bad ally? Maybe. But am I a bad person? No, definitely not. I think that&#8217;s your point, that being an ally requires more than being a good person, but I think the problem with that is that it doesn&#8217;t allow for failure. And failure is possibly the <em>least</em> motivating thing of all.</p>
<p>I do think that a problem with my thinking is that as of now, &#8220;being human&#8221; DOESN&#8217;T mean being an ally. So a designation is needed for those with whatever kinds of privilege who do actively and proactively fight oppression. (Sorta like how &#8220;queer&#8221; is a necessary designation now, though many people think an ultimate goal of queer activism and liberation is that everyone is in some way queer.) So practically speaking, I agree with the utility of the term allyship. But as an overarching concept, I still think that humanity, when lived out to its fullest, is really the best that we all can do. Because being a true &#8220;ally&#8221; isn&#8217;t about being perfect. It&#8217;s about being real. Human. And I think that in striving towards being a perfect &#8220;ally,&#8221; many folks forget about that core humanness.</p>
<p>Again, thanks so much for your thoughts. I love talking about this stuff (can you tell?). I fully invite more dialogue, if you have further thoughts on the matter!</p>
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		<title>By: Blaise Freeman</title>
		<link>http://alphafemme.net/2010/01/18/allyship-that-post-ive-been-sitting-on-all-week/comment-page-1/#comment-595</link>
		<dc:creator>Blaise Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 21:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, being an ally shouldn&#039;t just be about yourself, but about listening to other people. 

But I don&#039;t agree that &quot;just being human&quot; is helpful. The point of encouraging straight people to become allies is that straight people need to be &lt;b&gt;proactive&lt;/b&gt; about engaging with queer literature, activism, and leadership. To truly be helpful and supportive, straight people need to leave their comfort zone and actively engage with dialogue that they may not otherwise be exposed to. That means being more than just a good person, but actually committing to self-examination, learning, and taking action. 

For example, speaking up when others are being homophobic can be challenging if you&#039;re not prepared. Allies can engage in thoughtful discussion and exploration in advance of those moments, which they otherwise probably wouldn&#039;t do if their goal was to &quot;just be human&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, being an ally shouldn&#8217;t just be about yourself, but about listening to other people. </p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t agree that &#8220;just being human&#8221; is helpful. The point of encouraging straight people to become allies is that straight people need to be <b>proactive</b> about engaging with queer literature, activism, and leadership. To truly be helpful and supportive, straight people need to leave their comfort zone and actively engage with dialogue that they may not otherwise be exposed to. That means being more than just a good person, but actually committing to self-examination, learning, and taking action. </p>
<p>For example, speaking up when others are being homophobic can be challenging if you&#8217;re not prepared. Allies can engage in thoughtful discussion and exploration in advance of those moments, which they otherwise probably wouldn&#8217;t do if their goal was to &#8220;just be human&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lillian Starr</title>
		<link>http://alphafemme.net/2010/01/18/allyship-that-post-ive-been-sitting-on-all-week/comment-page-1/#comment-440</link>
		<dc:creator>Lillian Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 05:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an amazing and honest consideration of a word that is thrown around too lightly. Thank you for your insight. 
x L.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an amazing and honest consideration of a word that is thrown around too lightly. Thank you for your insight.<br />
x L.S.</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
		<link>http://alphafemme.net/2010/01/18/allyship-that-post-ive-been-sitting-on-all-week/comment-page-1/#comment-372</link>
		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 05:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post. I can see why you sat on it for a bit. There&#039;s ... a LOT there. It took me a few reads to really absorb and digest all of it, and I&#039;ve liked it more and more each time.

I&#039;ll admit. This hearing thing took me a while to really, really learn. I&#039;m the person that by nature? Is thinking of my response before you&#039;re ever done speaking. I frame my arguments. I strategize. I outline. That is my instinct.

So I&#039;ve had to really train myself to listen without expectation, and I don&#039;t think I&#039;m alone. It&#039;s a skill to hear someone else without getting defensive or antagonistic, and it takes real practice. Thanks for the reminder of how important that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post. I can see why you sat on it for a bit. There&#8217;s &#8230; a LOT there. It took me a few reads to really absorb and digest all of it, and I&#8217;ve liked it more and more each time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll admit. This hearing thing took me a while to really, really learn. I&#8217;m the person that by nature? Is thinking of my response before you&#8217;re ever done speaking. I frame my arguments. I strategize. I outline. That is my instinct.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;ve had to really train myself to listen without expectation, and I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m alone. It&#8217;s a skill to hear someone else without getting defensive or antagonistic, and it takes real practice. Thanks for the reminder of how important that is.</p>
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		<title>By: capitolfemme</title>
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		<dc:creator>capitolfemme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 04:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I read this right when you posted. I tweeted that it inspired intense conversation within my lgbt organization - as well as an upcoming video response apparently!  Well, I have finally had time to sit and process what it all means to me.

I love the way that you call people out for posing as allies.  We (humans) are all too quick to jump on a cause without taking the time to understand and listen to what it is all about.  Declaring yourself ALLY is more a way of stating, I&#039;m not against you.  This is not what an ally is supposed to be. It is unfortunate that something that should represent tolerance, acceptance, understand has simply become a social fad.

Thank you so much for putting into words something that I have been trying to express for way too long.  You allowed me to have open conversations and, honestly, to begin to listen to others a bit more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I read this right when you posted. I tweeted that it inspired intense conversation within my lgbt organization &#8211; as well as an upcoming video response apparently!  Well, I have finally had time to sit and process what it all means to me.</p>
<p>I love the way that you call people out for posing as allies.  We (humans) are all too quick to jump on a cause without taking the time to understand and listen to what it is all about.  Declaring yourself ALLY is more a way of stating, I&#8217;m not against you.  This is not what an ally is supposed to be. It is unfortunate that something that should represent tolerance, acceptance, understand has simply become a social fad.</p>
<p>Thank you so much for putting into words something that I have been trying to express for way too long.  You allowed me to have open conversations and, honestly, to begin to listen to others a bit more.</p>
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		<title>By: Allyship: a reaction/interpretation &#171; Capitolfemme</title>
		<link>http://alphafemme.net/2010/01/18/allyship-that-post-ive-been-sitting-on-all-week/comment-page-1/#comment-370</link>
		<dc:creator>Allyship: a reaction/interpretation &#171; Capitolfemme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 04:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  A few days ago (Monday maybe?) Alphafemme posted about allyship on her personal blog here.  Her words and comments have inspired numerous conversations throughout the week between myself [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  A few days ago (Monday maybe?) Alphafemme posted about allyship on her personal blog here.  Her words and comments have inspired numerous conversations throughout the week between myself [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://alphafemme.net/2010/01/18/allyship-that-post-ive-been-sitting-on-all-week/comment-page-1/#comment-369</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for sharing that.  This message would do a lot of people good to read.  So many times people listen without hearing.  The world would be a much better place if we could all hear without an agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for sharing that.  This message would do a lot of people good to read.  So many times people listen without hearing.  The world would be a much better place if we could all hear without an agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Indie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 07:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow this was really, really good.  Thanks for it, I happened to need this right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow this was really, really good.  Thanks for it, I happened to need this right now.</p>
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		<title>By: lady brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>lady brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 03:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, yes, yes, yes. your point about hearing is so well explained and so important, i think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, yes, yes, yes. your point about hearing is so well explained and so important, i think.</p>
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